Nov 2, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #132

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by Gerry Conway, John Romita Sr, Paul Reinman, and Tony Mortellaro

The Molten Man strikes again as Liz Allan returns! What is the possible connection between the two that you could absolutely Google since this story is nearly 50 years old?

BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 17
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • The Vulture: 9
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Hammerhead: 5
  • Sandman: 4
  • Molten Man: 3
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
  • Jonas Harrow: 2
  • The Kangaroo: 2
  • The Jackal: 2
DUY: Liz Allan returns after 102 issues. That's a long time.

BEN: She won’t come close to The Looter’s record.

DUY: This is already past the Romita run, but he's drawing here. So this is the first time John Romita has drawn Liz Allan, the only prominent character from the Ditko run he had never drawn before.


BEN: The flame effects on Molten Man make him look a lot more dynamic, and more deadly.

DUY: That dude's dick on the cover is getting really close to burned off.

BEN: The residual heat alone.


DUY: Let's talk about ourselves in the third person in a moment of crisis, why not.

BEN: As he’s passing out, no less.


BEN: There no way Spider-Man can kick Raxton if he’s 300 degrees. 

BEN: And did Peter get fired? He’s a staff photographer.

DUY: How does Mary Jane know who Liz is? I feel there was a golden opportunity to say they actually met off panel in the last 100 issues.

BEN: It’s the biggest error Conway and Roy have made so far. Peter even says they didn’t get along before, which seems impossible when they haven’t met.

DUY: The only thing I can think of that could be an in-story explanation is that Peter's doing his whole "All blonde women are the ghost of Gwen" thing.

BEN: Why would Mary Jane go with it though?


BEN: Mine:

DUY: Not my favorite, just pointing out this panel is reprinted in How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way.

DUY: This is my actual favorite panel, because it's both well drawn and utterly ridiculous.


BEN: Spider-Man, for not getting his dick burned off.

DUY: Liz Allan, because welcome back.

BEN: Okay, fine, it's Liz.

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dangermash aka The Artistic Actuary said...

Mary Jane and Liz met before in ASM #25, although it was only a two word conversation. "Hello girls!"

And the whole Molten Man temperature thing is weird. In ASM #28 and #35 he was just metallic and presumably cold to the touch. But when Spider-Man sees burnt footprints in the carpet, he immediately thinks it's Molten Man.

DomOBe said...

Liz and Mary Jane met way back in ASM #25

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