Sep 7, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #125

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AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #125
by Gerry Conway, Ross Andru, John Romita Sr, and Tony Mortellaro

Spider-Man vs. the Man-Wolf, who is John Jameson, JJJ's son!



POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 15
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Vulture: 7
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Sandman: 4
  • Hammerhead: 3
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
DUY: Time is slowing down: we're four issues past the deaths of Gwen and Norman, and it's only been a week. Given this and all the stuff in Marvel Team-Up, that's a lot of stuff.

BEN: Gil Kane and Andru seem to be switching off between Amazing and Team-Up.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: Peter noticing a friend’s pain is personal growth from him.



BEN: And "That's really helping" made me chuckle.


DUY: Mary Jane wanting to help but then stopping herself is in line with her eventual retconned characterization. A retcon that was written by Conway, to be clear.



BEN: So maybe it’s just her characterization.

DUY: It's hard to say any of her personality is retconned this early on, because we've barely actually seen anything of her. Any appeal she had was projected on by the reader.

BEN: Do you think she is looking to be with Peter in the future?

DUY: She doesn't strike me as anyone who wants to commit to anyone, actually.

BEN: Conway is definitely planning it, and he’s trying to get Peter through this grieving process as fast as possible.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: Oh Flash, no.


DUY: Don't just randomly tell women to smile, kids.

BEN: John should really stop going into space.


DUY: I don't know if you should call Robbie "Boy Editor."


BEN: His son is as old as you.

DUY: .....Also yeah, you probably shouldn't call Robbie "Boy."

BEN: If you’re out there reading this, that term of address is racially charged. Now you know.

NITPICKS

BEN: I’m no expert, but that moon doesn’t look close to setting.


FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: Mine:


DUY: There's a poignancy to the way this story ends. The hero has won, but there's an overall feeling of loss. It's only ruined by the end copy. Also, a lesser writer would have Spidey going "This blond girl reminds me of Gwen."

BEN: The cover did that.

DUY: I learned just yesterday that the cover copy a lot of the time is the domain of the editors, so I'll give Gerry a pass.


BEN: I like how “over it” Spider-Man is in that exchange.

WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Gerry Conway, I think, has written a really good issue here.

BEN: Conway gets remembered mostly for The Death of Gwen Stacy, but his entire run is really good. The best the comic has been since early Romita.

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