Apr 6, 2020

Spider-Rama: Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine #2

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every day until the end of April, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

by Stan Lee, John Romita Sr., Jim Mooney, and Frank Giacoia

The Green Goblin returns and threatens Peter Parker's family!


BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 9
  • Green Goblin: 9
  • The Vulture: 7
  • The Kingpin: 6
  • Mysterio: 5
  • Kraven the Hunter: 5
  • Sandman: 4
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • The Lizard: 3
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 3
  • The Chameleon: 2
  • Electro: 2
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
DUY: To the absolute best of my knowledge, this is the closest anyone will ever get to a Goblin/Octopus team-up, and it happens in a hallucination. These two will never team. Even in recent remakes where Octavius started out as an Osborn employee, such as The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and the PS4 game (both of which are great), the moment he quits, they're enemies. But this is what Spider-Man's brain thinks of when he thinks of his worst enemies. Two are his greatest, yes. Then there's the Kingpin. I can see that. But then there's those other three... Who should actually be on this list?

BEN: If you go by our villain appearance count, that's accurate except for the Rhino. It should be Mysterio.


DUY: I think this is kind of where the whole Goblin-is-the-greatest-Spidey-villain thing starts to really happen. The scenes where he's stalking Aunt May's house. The dinner with Peter and Gwen and MJ and Harry, where it's clear he knows. As great as Dr. Octopus is, it seems like he's more of a great villain who happens to be a part of great stories, while Goblin is the one driving the story.

BEN: It had never been done before. Never had a hero had such a vulnerable supporting cast, and combine that with a villain that knows his secret. It’s intense. The amnesia bit was always... convenient, but do you think it’s more believable now in the age of CTE and head trauma?

DUY: I dunno, I think selective amnesia is always gonna be spotty. Plus the idea that the memory could come back is still far off, right? I'm just going to no-prize it as the Goblin serum has all the effects of an alcohol blackout.

BEN: I know it’s not a realistic symptom, but I guess the idea of constant head trauma not being something without consequences.

DUY: Actually as a wrestling fan, I can attest to those consequences, so I can certainly buy him going crazy because of it.


BEN:  Dammit Parker, you should know what “coffee” means!

DUY: Wouldn't that age well? How many college-age guys actually pick up on "coffee"?

BEN: Also:

DUY:  "Let me be proud of not talking."


BEN: It’s tricky where this fits in the main title, but Peter has sold his bike by now in Amazing, but has it here.

DUY: The Omnibus places this after the Mysterio arc in #67, and before the Annual with his parents. The bike throws it off, but that's where I'll be putting it. What'll be interesting to see is if they pull off a whole different Green Goblin return in the main book.

BEN: I was wondering if they were setting this up or not.


BEN: Talking marriage already:

DUY: Lots of good art in this, so I'll say this one, since it seems inspired:

DUY: But there's also this, which really does kind of let you see why Peter choosing Gwen over MJ isn't really questionable at all. More than just Gwen looking gorgeous, look at how eagerly and happily Peter turns to see her. Look at how happy George is for them.


DUY: Peter Parker very decisively won the issue.

BEN: And he still can't be happy about it.

DUY: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

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