The Lizard is loose, and the Human Torch wants to stop him, but Spidey has to stop him in a very specific way, and because superheroes can't just talk, it's basically a triple threat match.
POINTLESS TRIVIA
BEN: Villain appearance count:
- Doctor Octopus: 9
- The Kingpin: 9
- Green Goblin: 8
- The Vulture: 7
- Mysterio: 6
- The Lizard: 5
- Kraven the Hunter: 5
- Sandman: 4
- The Enforcers: 3
- The Rhino: 3
- Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 3
- Man Mountain Marko: 3
- Silvermane: 3
- The Chameleon: 2
- Electro: 2
- The Ringmaster: 2
- Scorpion: 2
- Molten Man: 2
- Shocker: 2
DUY: This is the Torch's first appearance in this title since the midway point of the Ditko days. Basically when Ditko got heavier in the plotting, he did away with Johnny's frequent appearances. The last appearance was #21, when they were fighting the Beetle, yet another animal themed villain in green and purple.
BEN: The Torch hates the color green.
DUY: He'd end up marrying a Skrull, so, irony.
BEN: Against his knowledge!
DUY: In his defense, this issue proves Johnny is very stupid.
BEN: So, so stupid.
WHAT'S AGED THE BEST?
BEN: The Torch hates the color green.
DUY: He'd end up marrying a Skrull, so, irony.
BEN: Against his knowledge!
DUY: In his defense, this issue proves Johnny is very stupid.
BEN: So, so stupid.
WHAT'S AGED THE BEST?
BEN: How long ago did he make that asbestos webbing and how happy was he inside that he got to use it?
DUY: So I found out recently by the social media that Torch and Spidey is a very popular ship and that Torch is one of those characters the LGBT fans would like to come out. Do you see it?
DUY: Fire and Ice! Like that song from Poison.
BEN: I was a Motley Crue kid.
DUY: I only know two songs from Poison.
BEN: Is one "Fire and Ice"?
WHAT'S AGED THE WORST?
BEN: How would explaining to the Torch that the Lizard’s a good man underneath jeopardize his identity?
BEN: As if Johnny would know a biochemist by pure facial recognition.
DUY: You're right, Johnny is incredibly dumb. I'm pretty sure spiders don't have super sonic hearing, and Torch has met him more times than anyone.
BEN: The Lizard was defeated by salt?
DUY: I'm the opposite. I think the salt thing ages fine. Asbestos doesn't.
BEN: The salt is fine as a means of stopping him, it’s more about that it also cures him too.
NITPICKS
BEN: It’s Billy, Stan, his name is Billy.
DUY: Billy, Bobby, it's all the same. Maybe Peter's just forgetful.
BEN: He did forget his own name.
FAVORITE PANEL
DUY: Technically those were narration boxes. Twice, Stan.
BEN: Bob Banner is rolling over in his grave.
FAVORITE PANEL
BEN: Buscema and Mooney loved drawing the Lizard:
DUY: That's mine too. Really sticks out.
WHO WON THE COMIC?
BEN: Salt!
DUY: Gwen Stacy.
SHOULD SPIDER-MAN JUST TELL GWEN?
BEN: All the turmoil between Peter and Gwen highlights how often modern adaptations of Spider-Man tend to have his identity revealed to his love interest very quickly. Ultimate Spider-Man and Far From Home both have him confess to MJ his secret. Is this the better or more dramatic method to his stories?
DUY: Both are beholden to the conventions of their time. Secret identities were basically just inviolate back then, plus it would have stepped over the Fantastic Four's gimmick. (It's not a gimmick anymore.)
DUY: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.
BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—
DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.
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