Oct 28, 2020

Spider-Rama: Marvel Team-Up #20

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

MARVEL TEAM-UP #20
by Len Wein, Sal Buscema, Frank Giacoia, and Mike Esposito

Coming back to New York, Spider-Man runs into Black Panther, and Stegron the Dinosaur Man is still around!

POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: As near as I can tell, this is the first time Sal Buscema penciled a Spider-Man comic, after inking Amazing Spider-Man #94 and #95.

DUY: He will continue to draw Spider-Man. Forever.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: Comics are great sometimes.


DUY: Obviously, the answer to this, given the last few years, is the Black Panther, who is better than Batman.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: I’m going to keep tracking how the Parallel Lives retcon works with the actual comics. (Parallel Lives was a 1989 graphic novel that established that Mary Jane knew Peter was Spider-Man before she even met him.) Yes, I do know retcons change what happened in previous comics, so the events as seen here could have altered. This sequence doesn’t prove she couldn’t have known his identity, but it doesn’t help.




DUY: I was gonna pick that too, not because she's supposed to know who he is, but because it's such bad "acting" on his part. He's not mean to anyone else he saves.

BEN: He did snap a girl’s neck once while saving her. That’s mean.

NITPICKS

BEN: There’s really no way he could move fast enough for this to happen.



DUY: Yeah, but he's more likely to make it than Batman.

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: Who doesn’t love a man in a bright red spider costume punching a dinosaur man?



DUY: COMICS ARE AWESOME.




WHO WON THE COMIC?

BEN: Sal Buscema, one of the most significant artists in the history of the character got his first full opportunity here.

DUY: The winner of this is T'Challa, the Black Panther, who is better than Batman.

BEN: With money and training, any of us could be Batman!

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Oct 26, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #131

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #131
by Gerry Conway, Ross Andru, Frank Giacoia, and D. Hunt

Dr. Octopus is marrying Aunt May because the world is terrible.




POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 17
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • The Vulture: 9
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Hammerhead: 5
  • Sandman: 4
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
  • Jonas Harrow: 2
  • The Kangaroo: 2
  • The Jackal: 2
DUY: Hammerhead is moving up the list fast, passing Sandman even.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: All the relationship talk. Some of it was poorly written, but it still worked for me.



BEN: And setting up the Mary Jane relationship.




DUY: "I don't want to love him" is great, great character work. I think I'm remembering that I actually do love Mary Jane Watson.

BEN: You didn’t love “randomly appearing as Harry’s girlfriend” Mary Jane?

DUY: No. No I did not.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: Where to begin? There’s the continued utter cluelessness of Aunt May. The secret island/atomic plant inheritance. Doc Ock in a tux. I mean, why would Ock even care about acquiring this plant legally? May doesn’t even know it exists.

DUY: Every single panel with Aunt May in a wedding dress.

BEN: She looks like the human personification of death. Death by marriage.

NITPICKS

BEN: There’s no chance Spider-Man can hear them from the outside of a helicopter.



DUY: That's a low-key great panel though.

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: Mine:



DUY: That's a great explosion. And not my gold standard for comic book explosions drawn in Amazing Spider-Man. Yes, there's such a thing. And we always talk about how awesome it is when Spidey kicks ass. But what about his villains? Ock is DANGEROUS.



BEN: You’ll fall at his tentacles.

WHO WON THE COMIC?

BEN: Mary Jane, because I feel like even if you were the biggest Gwen fan, they set up this switch to MJ as well as possible.

DUY: Yeah, this issue was easily owned by Mary Jane and her eight panels.

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Oct 21, 2020

Spider-Rama: Marvel Team-Up #19

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

MARVEL TEAM-UP #19
by Len Wein and Gil Kane

Spider-Man vs. the Man-Wolf, who is John Jameson, JJJ's son!



POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: The previous issue was a team-up between the Hulk and the Human Torch, so we skipped it. And the first appearance of Stegron, the Dinosaur Man!

DUY: Between Kraven and Ka-Zar, I feel I've seen these guys WAY too much. Also, every issue of Marvel Team-Up thus far has had either Spidey or Torch.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: Stegron May be a complete copy of the Lizard, but I’m fine with it. Sick burn, Spidey.



DUY: For a villain created in MTU, Stegron has in fact aged pretty well.

BEN: It’s a proven concept.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: Two things. 1. I’m pretty sure that webbing is going up his buttcrack. 2. Maybe you stop with the cell-regeneration research, Curt.



DUY: That webbing... is definitely going up his buttcrack.

NITPICKS

BEN: Missing spider emblem.



DUY: Really? He just so happens to be going back to New York?


BEN: I was wondering when they dropped him off, how was he planning to get home.


FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: That’s just a well-done Spidey:



DUY: Yeah, shut up Ka-Zar.


WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Stegron, the Dinosaur Man.

BEN: I feel like if your real name is Stegron, you have to become a dinosaur man at some point.

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Oct 19, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #130

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #130
by Gerry Conway, Ross Andru, Frank Giacoia, and D. Hunt

Hammerhead is back! The Jackal is here! And so is Dr. Octopus! And the Spider-Mobile debuts!



POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 16
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • The Vulture: 9
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Sandman: 4
  • Hammerhead: 4
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
  • Jonas Harrow: 2
  • The Kangaroo: 2
  • The Jackal: 2
BEN: The debut of the Spider-Mobile.



DUY: Yes! Screw you, Batmobile!

BEN: Is this the first time we’ve seen a Christmas themed issue coordinated with the real-life season?

DUY: For Spider-Man, yes.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: Peter Parker being a terrible driver. Three villains running around causing problems was new



DUY: Aside from the awesomeness of the Spider-Mobile and the fact that this issue in general is pretty good, I just want to point out that Andru has been different from his predecessors in terms of perspectives. You don't really get this kind of thing from Ditko or Romita, and it works. That's the second thing I've seen that distinguishes Andru from his predecessors, the first one being MJ's staple ensemble.


BEN: You know I love those high-up angles.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST?

BEN: Has Harry been weird since his father died?


DUY: He's been extra hostile, but I think it'd be easy to blame it on the drugs.

BEN: I’m just pointing out how inconsiderate his statement is. Of course he’s been weird, HIS FATHER DIED.

NITPICKS

BEN: Back to the Christmas thing, as a fan we just have to ignore the 40 different Christmas stories Spider-Man has had in the years since.

DUY: And that's just it with seasons passing in comics. You'll go through 16 seasons and it'll be a year in their lives.

BEN: How is Doctor Octopus out of jail?

DUY: I've said it before, but just because Hammerhead has a metal plate in his head doesn't mean he needs to just use his head to hit everything.

BEN: His neck isn't metal. Or maybe it is. I don't know.

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: It doesn’t get more insane than this:


DUY: YES! SPIDER-MOBILE!!!


WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Corona Motors, for the majesty that is the Spider-Mobile.

BEN: I’m saying Ross Andru, because in many ways he was my baseline for the character as a kid. I didn’t have access to that many back issues of Romita or Ditko, but I was collecting these.

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Oct 12, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #129

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #129
by Gerry Conway, Ross Andru, Frank Giacoia, D. Hunt

It's the first appearance of the Jackal! That's a big deal! And also some guy named the Punisher.



POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 15
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • The Vulture: 9
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Sandman: 4
  • Hammerhead: 3
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
  • Jonas Harrow: 2
  • The Kangaroo: 2

DUY: Wow, the death of Gwen Stacy, death of Green Goblin, and the first appearances of the Jackal and the Punisher, all in the span of nine issues. Conway's legacy is set at this point.

BEN: Mary Jane thought bubbles.


DUY: They're so rare! The question about those specific MJ thought ballons -- when they were written, was it meant to characterize her, or was it meant to have her be lying to herself?

BEN: I think you can say both.

DUY: That's kinda nuanced for a 1973 comic.

BEN: It was probably true at the time, but became nuanced after the retcons.

DUY: The Punisher was designed by John Romita, and was close to being called The Grim Reaper or The Executioner.



WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: Obviously the Punisher went on to become one of Marvel’s most popular characters, especially among those that have never read a comic book.

DUY: The cover is iconic, and has been homaged several times.











BEN: The costume is brilliant.

DUY: The Punisher's costume, for me, specifically, has aged well. It's perfect, right down to the ammo being the teeth of the skull.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: I have to agree with the Jackal, what’s it matter how he dies?



DUY: Peter sewed his entire costume from scratch, so this doesn't really make sense.


NITPICKS

BEN: I know Spider-Man’s ability to dodge projectiles depends on the story, but still.



FAVORITE PANEL

DUY: Mine:



BEN: Mine:


DUY: The Punisher has grown to be one of the most feared men in comics, and Spider-Man takes him down in a panel.

WHO WON THE COMIC?

BEN: The eventual “grim and gritty” era of comics. The death of Gwen and the creation of the Punisher will be two important checkpoints towards superhero comics becoming much more dark and violent.

DUY: It's either the Punisher or Gerry Conway.

BEN: Conway is killing it, in terms of creating legendary comics.

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Oct 7, 2020

Spider-Rama: Marvel Team-Up #17

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

MARVEL TEAM-UP #17
by Len Wein, Gil Kane, and Everybody


Spider-Man teams up with a member of the Fantastic Four! Oh wait, it's Mr. Fantastic.



POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
DUY: Mar-Vell is in the issue since this continues from the previous issue, but he does nothing, much like Iron man when he showed up. It's like a rule that the previous issue's guest star has to be useless if the story continues.

BEN: It was a rule for Iron Man to be useless, until 2008.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: I give you Marvel’s first official supervillain.




WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: Unmitigated moron.


DUY: This is a Kane staple and I hate it.


BEN: Stare at my weird drawings of faces! Stare at them!

NITPICKS

BEN: How would Spider-Man know Basilisk was a heistman?



DUY: Look at the cover. Just look at it. It makes no sense.  Spider-Man is swinging from Mr. Fantastic's left arm, under his right arm, punching someone who's clearly under his left arm, WHAT.

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: Mine:



DUY: I love how Reed is just like "Yeah, no, Johnny's not here, go away." Even though Spidey needs him for the Spider-mobile everywhere else.




BEN: Johnny’s not home, little boy.


WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Rick Jones. The Mole Man. I dunno. Whatever.

BEN: Short agile men.

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Oct 5, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #128

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every Monday and Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #128
by Gerry Conway, Ross Andru, Frank Giacoia, and D. Hunt

The Vulture returns!

POINTLESS TRIVIA
 
BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 15
  • Green Goblin: 13
  • The Kingpin: 12
  • The Vulture: 9
  • Kraven the Hunter: 8
  • The Lizard: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 6
  • Sandman: 4
  • Hammerhead: 3
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Schemer/Richard Fisk: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
  • The Beetle: 2
  • Morbius: 2
  • The Gibbon: 2
  • The Man-Wolf: 2
  • Jonas Harrow: 2
  • The Kangaroo: 2

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST? 

BEN: This:


DUY: If this happened in 2020, the racist fans would be complaining that a black character exists.

BEN: Peter finally using his built-in excuse.


DUY: Perfect in today's day and age. "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Or “We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere." by Elie Wiesel.



WHAT'S AGED THE WORST? 

BEN: This.


DUY: Heeheehee, his name is Shallot.

BEN: This whole Vulture imposter plot. So the experiment made him look exactly like Toomes for some reason?



DUY: The genetic mutation and facial changes idea has now been introduced, though, and that's going to be important in around 20 issues.

NITPICKS

BEN: Maybe don’t wear a bright yellow jacket then.


FAVORITE PANEL

BEN: Mine:



DUY: Mine:




WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Once again, Gerry Conway, who hits a LOT of positive check marks in this entire issue.

BEN: And Peter isn’t a total dick this time.

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