Jul 29, 2020

Spider-Rama: Marvel Team-Up #8

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by Gerry Conway and Jim Mooney

Spider-Man and the Cat fight (sigh) Man-Killer.


BEN: The Cat eventually becomes Tigra.


BEN: Gatekeeping “fans” would have you believe diversity and feminism are being shoved down the throats of the modern reader, but that just means they haven’t paid attention to anything they’ve read in the past 60 years.

DUY: Hey you know what hasn't aged well? Gatekeeping fans.

BEN: The idea of gatekeeping, and the fans themselves, they are not aging gracefully.

DUY: It does kind of feel like this is a precursor to today's feminist wave. The 70s were far more sledgehammer-y about it.

BEN: Are you saying a character named Man-Killer was a touch unsubtle?

DUY: To be fair, does the name "Man-killer" age well or badly?


BEN: I remember having a discussion with someone online about if Spider-Man ever hit a woman (on purpose) so I’m recording this here. I’m not equipped enough to litigate the social or gender politics of whether it’s right for him to do, or not.

DUY: I know the intention is to make her look like she has two breasts and a four-pack, but...


DUY: So I don't know if this counts as a nitpick, but we've spent a lot of time on Spider-Rama singing the praises of Jim Mooney. Now he's on full art, and .... it's okay, not great. Some people are destined to be inkers, kids, and there's nothing wrong with that.

BEN: Some parts are really good, which makes me think some guys are inkers because they’re not fast enough to be pencilers.


BEN: Bunt!

DUY: This is so hilarious. "Your costume was made by MEN!" "NOOOOOOOOO!"


DUY: The "comics aren't just for kids" crowd starts to win here. Look at the way this ends. Conway is trying to go for literature levels of prose. We're moving away from the Stan Lee mode of narration, which was friendlier, more inviting, and really gave Marvel its clubhouse feel.

BEN: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

DUY: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

BEN: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

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