Apr 23, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #83

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Every day until the end of April, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

by Stan Lee, John Romita Sr., and Mickey Demeo

The Schemer is here. But who is he, and what is his connection to the Kingpin?


BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • The Kingpin: 10
  • Doctor Octopus: 9
  • Green Goblin: 8
  • The Vulture: 7
  • Mysterio: 6
  • The Lizard: 5
  • Kraven the Hunter: 5
  • Sandman: 4
  • Electro: 3
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 3
  • Man Mountain Marko: 3
  • Silvermane: 3
  • The Chameleon: 3
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
  • Shocker: 2
BEN: The Kingpin passes Doctor Octopus for most appearances by a villain.

DUY: Weird that at any point Kingpin had the most appearances by a villain. He's so barely used now by Spidey (and is not even a Spidey villain anymore).

BEN: I wonder why the Kingpin was used so much? Is it as simple as Romita preferring his best co-creation? He is a little easier to go back to frequently over a costumed villain.

DUY: In concept, Fisk is easiest to go back to because he could run things behind the scenes. But the way they keep going back to him so far isn't "behind the scenes." He's doing his own dirty work.

BEN: He’s already wanted by the police right? Anyway, this also has the first appearance of Richard Fisk.

DUY: We establish that Kingpin is old enough to have a college-age son. Is this also the first appearance of Vanessa Fisk?

BEN: She appeared in #70.

DUY: She "appeared" in #70 as a driver of Fisk's car, but she wasn't actually seen. Why is that counted as her first appearance? Mary Jane's first appearance is 42.

BEN: I've seen some guides count #25.

DUY: Romita is easily noticeably back on art duties, inked by Mickey Demeo, whose name I don't remember. Turns out it's a pseudonym for Mike Esposito.

BEN: The art is much more generic without Mooney.

DUY: There's a weird establishment here that Spider-Man's body may just be harder than a normal person's. That's strange, right? I know he's stronger, I know he heals faster, but the idea that hitting him would be like hitting a rock is almost Superman-level.

BEN: Is that consistently true? It would explain the lack of bruising.

DUY: I don't think I've ever seen anyone punch Spider-Man and have them say punching him was hard. Though it's regularly done with the Kingpin...


BEN: Robbie, always Robbie.


BEN:  This:

DUY:  Speaking of sexist remarks, here's Peter being surprised that the Kingpin may have a wife. And also, while we're at it, here's a fat joke.

BEN: Priorities, Peter. Being dead is worse.


BEN: Where does all his money go? He doesn’t pay rent, he’s got a college scholarship, no car...

DUY: If Spidey knows his webbing dissolves, why would he web up his clothes in a way that would make them fall after two hours?


BEN: Mine:

DUY: This comes only two panels after MJ kisses Flash goodbye:


DUY: Dr. Bromwell wins, just because I'm reminded that he's alive, and I'm now making a mental note to find out when he's last going to be seen.

DUY: Also, Flash Thompson wins, because he gets two kisses from MJ and Gwen.

BEN: Flash stays winning, because he gets all the love of military service without ever having to do any actual work for the military.

DUY: And also Gwen wins, because she's established as the much better kisser.

BEN: Wouldn’t that make Peter the winner?.

DUY: Well if it's a kissing contest, Gwen wins.

BEN: Be honest, would you be annoyed with her for that?

DUY: 100% yes, wouldn't you?

BEN: Yes. Yes I would.

That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

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1 comment:

Arthur S. said...

Kingpin actually sharply declines in appearances after this. He won’t appear again until Wein’s run after this. By the time Frank Miller got go him he only appeared in 18 Spider-Man comics.

He has since gone on to make most of his appearances in Daredevil more than 250.

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