Feb 19, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #62

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Each Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #62
Spider-Rama
by Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. and Don Heck

The Inhuman Queen, Medusa, is approached to be the model for a hair spray brand. Tiring of the modeling work, Medusa trashes the agency's office. Spider-Man goes after her, because comics are awesome.




POINTLESS TRIVIA

BEN: Here's another Mary Jane Watson thought balloon.


DUY: Just realized this is one of MJ's only and early thought balloons, and it's her being surprised that Peter actually misses Gwen, and I'm sure that says something about her character.

BEN: Are you calling her dumb?

DUY: It's either dumb or self-centered.

BEN: Let's say self-centered. Don't want the hate mail.

DUY: Maybe I do.

BEN: Okay, she's both.

DUY: About Medusa, at this point in time, Medusa has been a part of the Frightful Four (featuring the Fantastic Four villain The Wizard, the Human Torch villain who would eventually be a Spider-Man villain, and the Spider-Man villain the Sandman. The Fantastic Four and Spider-Man are inextricably linked). She suffered from amnesia. Then she rejoined the Inhumans in Attilan, got trapped, got out, and now she's here scouting out the human race.

BEN: Finally, this is number 3 on the "Gwen Stacy cries" consecutive issue count.



WHAT'S AGED THE BEST?

BEN: I've got nothing. The Inhumans have always sucked.

DUY: I thought this was a fun issue because it's so silly. The fact that a hair spray agent causes all this trouble just so Medusa can make him millions is some much-needed comic relief after the events of the last few issues. Also, between the wrestling promoter, JJJ, and this guy, pretty much anyone working in the media, entertainment, or advertising industry up to this point in the series has been a shark.

BEN: What’s weird is I do like some Inhumans individually, like Medusa.

DUY: I tend to like them in concept.

BEN: Black Bolt looks cool.

DUY: Crystal is fun in other titles.

BEN: I do love Crystal.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST?

BEN:  Angrily exploring a possible relocation into human society? That hasn't aged well.

DUY: "Didn't they ever tell you not to broadcast your plans? But that's the trouble with women -- they just can't keep their mouths shut." Sadly, this is a typical Stan Lee line where women are involved.

BEN:  Different times. It was probably bad at the time, but Stan was already old by then.

DUY:  Yeah, but even then it doesn't work -- all his villains monologue, but he'll only say a sexist line for Medusa.

NITPICKS

BEN: I know his spider sense is inconsistent, but he’s technically in no real danger here.


FAVORITE PANEL

DUY: I have two. One is the Mary Jane panel we posted earlier, because Peter putting off MJ is great. But the other one is Medusa cracking her hair like a whip:


DUY: Because it reminds me of WWE NXT wrestler, Bianca Belair:


BEN: Stop sending me wrestling stuff that's not Becky Lynch.

DUY: Medusa kinda looks like Becky Lynch, The Man.



BEN: They should cast her in the Inhumans movie they'll never make. Because the Inhumans suck.


WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: Peter blowing off MJ at the end makes this issue a Gwen Stacy win.

BEN: Everything is a Gwen Stacy win..

DUY: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

Leave us a comment below or on our Facebook page. See you next Wednesday!

Feb 12, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #61

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Each Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #61
Spider-Rama
by Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. and Don Heck

With Captain Stacy still under the influence of the Kingpin, Spider-Man has his hands full trying to save both him and Gwen!




POINTLESS TRIVIA

BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 9
  • Green Goblin: 7
  • The Kingpin: 6
  • Kraven the Hunter: 5
  • The Vulture: 5
  • Sandman: 4
  • Mysterio: 4
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • The Lizard: 3
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 3
  • The Chameleon: 2
  • Electro: 2
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
DUY: “Gwen Stacy cries” consecutive issue count: 2.


WHAT'S AGED THE BEST?

DUY:  I think Gwen being a good daughter who accompanies George even though it's dangerous, like going with him even as he's clearly being kidnapped, is stupid, butpretty cool.

BEN: Everything Gwen does is cool. She need a better comic to be in.

BEN: This is such a slow turn. The low moments of the Ditko run were at least interesting because of how weird they were and how it seemed he and Stan weren't even communicating. This is just like everyone has been phoning it in. "Peter realizes he loves Gwen! Let's take three issues!"

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST?

DUY: Kingpin needs to use Norman Osborn's resources behind his back, and it really downplays his wealth and the amount of resources he would be shown to have eventually.

BEN: He’s not much of a Kingpin so far.

DUY:  And "There are more than two billion people alive today, and half of them are males," at this point, is MJ's defining quote.


NITPICKS

DUY:  Peter used to solve things by inventing cool stuff. This time he.... makes a mask out of his web.


BEN: Who’s got the time to invent?

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN:  Chubbins!



DUY: Osborn remembering the Green Goblin is some nice foreshadowing... and happens in the same story where Peter realizes he loves Gwen.


BEN: Are you suggesting there’s some sort of foreboding connection between the two?

DUY: Why, not at all. What would make you say that?

BEN: I'm not interested in your spoilers. I'm sure she'll be fine.

DUY: Of course she'll be fine. She's a Spider-Woman now, y'know.



WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY: I guess Osborn wins. We're reminded he exists, we're reminded the Goblin exists, and we're reminded of the internal conflict within.

BEN: Gwen survived her first death trap, she wins.

DUY: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

Leave us a comment below or on our Facebook page. See you next Wednesday!

Feb 5, 2020

Spider-Rama: Amazing Spider-Man #60

Welcome to Spider-Rama! Each Wednesday, Ben and Duy will look at a Spider-Man issue from the very beginning, in chronological order, and answer questions for various categories, inspired in large part by one of our favorite podcasts, The Rewatchables by The Ringer. Our goal is to make it to Amazing Spider-Man #200. Will we make it? Grab your Amazing Spider-Man Omnibus or crank up your tablet to Marvel Unlimited, and then tune in every Wednesday to find out!

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #60
Spider-Rama
by Stan Lee and John Romita Sr. and Don Heck

The Kingpin is revealed to be the Brainwasher, and he's hypnotized Captain Stacy!



POINTLESS TRIVIA

BEN: Villain appearance count:
  • Doctor Octopus: 9
  • Green Goblin: 7
  • Sandman: 4
  • Kraven the Hunter: 5
  • The Vulture: 5
  • The Kingpin: 5
  • Mysterio: 4
  • The Enforcers: 3
  • The Rhino: 3
  • The Lizard: 3
  • Professor Smythe/Spider Slayer: 3
  • The Chameleon: 2
  • Electro: 2
  • The Ringmaster: 2
  • Scorpion: 2
  • Molten Man: 2
BEN: Peter realizes that he loves Gwen.

DUY: And unlike him being "in love" with Betty, this time it's for real. But this is also the first time Gwen will "never forgive Peter" for something that she would eventually forgive him for.



BEN: This looks like it might be the beginning of her melodramatic turn, which is much later than a lot of haters would have you believe. In fact, let’s get a “Gwen Stacy cries” consecutive issue count going.

WHAT'S AGED THE BEST?

BEN: I’m glad they skipped past Harry being mad at Peter for never being around and made him a supportive friend. He’s always giving him the benefit of the doubt when he disappears, and sticks by him when the two thugs wreck their apartment.


DUY: It's a nice moment for Harry. Character growth.

WHAT'S AGED THE WORST?

BEN: The Kingpin is way more hotheaded than he would become.

DUY: He's clearly a prototype of what he'd later become. But my answer is still Aunt May. Holy crap, she's so damn unbearable. "Isn't he a pussywillow, Anna?" Ugh.


BEN:  There’s a dark story where Peter finds May’s murdered body and written on the wall in blood is “For the last time, it’s pussycat!”

NITPICKS

DUY: Kingpin being strong enough to basically be invulnerable to Daredevil makes sense. But for him to overpower Spider-Man is just.... he has to be superpowered, right?



BEN: Kingpin’s strength doesn’t make sense. I’ve been trying to get so fat that I’m super strong, but it’s not working.

FAVORITE PANEL

BEN:  A teenager?!



DUY: I have to give it to Harry telling Pete he's gonna stick by him, posted up above.

WHO WON THE COMIC?

DUY:  No one. Look, we get a lot of flak these days for writers decompressing too much. Sure. But that was around even back then, and this story is running too long and it's not even engaging.

BEN: This is what it sounds like, when doves cry.

DUY: That's it for Spider-Rama this week.

BEN: Thank you, Stan Lee and Steve Ditko—

DUY: —for telling us we aren't the only ones.

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